Curse

imnotyourmother · Oct 10, 2008, 03:02 PM // 15:02

Well, I had a few questions about how to improve my build so I went to the skills section to find my elite skill that I am using and I can not find it. As a matter of a fact I can not find 4 of my skills that I use on this list.

The skills bar as I remember it...

1- Rush
2 Elite - the one giving ENERGY. Mine is +3 for every attack

3 and 4 are the adren combo for sword - gash and reduce health

5 is Frenzy

6 is Power attack

7 is Protector's Strike

8 is Monk skill Healing Breeze +7 health regen

My attributes are set at 15 strength and 16 sword and I think 8 in Healing to give me +7 regen

I DO NOT have the extra 30 attribute points yet. I will be doing those missions with a guild member that I am helping run the mission to get to the outposts that offer the 2 missions to get them

I run with Sup Runes of Strength and Sword.

My questions are;

1) Knowing that I like ENERGY BASED SKILLS - cause my elite gives +3 per strike should I swap out my adren skill - the reduction of 20% health for a more lethal one. If so which one. I like health degen on foes

2) I have never run with a hammer or an axe. What is a good skill set for those?

Thanks. Please note that most of the time I run SOLO with a Protector monk and a Healing monk Hero's. I control their skills as I run my own. When fighting low lvl foes in PvE I run solo.. such as farming charr carvings.

So:
3) is there a better way for a war to deal AoE damage to large mobs such as the ones found in the Fort Ranik Mission. like should I use the axe so that I can use a skill that attacks all of the foes next to me. IS there a sword skill that will do this OTHER THAN HUNDRED BLADES. Remember I like my Energy and Healing Breeze cost 10 of the 20 that I have.

Thanks

Tyla · Oct 10, 2008, 03:45 PM // 15:45

Strength isn't worth speccing if you don't have anything worthwhile to use out of it. Superior runes in both that and weapon mastery is just stupid. Using your elite to fuel Power Attack, Protector's Strike and Healing Breeze is just dumb.

Check back to the Warrior guide to pick up some base information then come back.

imnotyourmother · Oct 10, 2008, 04:21 PM // 16:21

Well this build works great actually.

Consider this. Charr Farming Fort Ranik Mission. I can run and kill everything and I take only 48 max damage from the mes and monk foes every now and then. So the Healing Breeze is constant. I am looking to improve the AoE damage as I currently have none.

I can get 25-30 carvings per run and 500 or so gold + odd runes and dyes. So this build does work quite well and took me a very long time to come up with. I needed to balance the extra damage from the 5 energy skill while running with the heeling breeze up when I am in the mobs and the elite energy skill allows me to do this.

I can understand your concern with the 2 sup runes but the extra 50 or so damage that I do each hit slices through the foes so they deal less damage to me. I think that the trade off for health knowing how to run the build is far better use of TIME than having to stand there and strike each foe 4 times instead of twice since they can not kill me anyway with Healing Breaze at +7 regen up constantly.

So your statement of a silly build is unfounded since you put your lips into action before you tried this build as it solves the energy crisis of a WAR.

As far as maxing the strength, I use strength skills. Maxing it for the SKILLS not the armor pen is the idea here. Also please then advise me where to put the extra attribute points since I can not get the healing up high enough to give me +8 regen on the healing breeze as I am currently 30 attribute points short until we run those 4 quests. (2 to get the 2 quests and the 2 quests themselves)

Also take note that this toon has Legendary Survivor on it and that I put the sup runes on it BEFORE I got the Title so staying alive is not a new concept for me.

As I see things there are 2 ways to stay alive. One is to Max out the heath with endure pain and such or to mash the crap out of the foes as fast as possible so that you take a limited amount of damage while REGEN your self.

As for Protection of my lower heath please also note that I run a HEALING and a PROTECTOR HERO's builds similar to that in CoF missions. So staying alive with only 360 hp is not an issue for me when I am FARMING.

The purpose of this thread was 3 fold not if this build works or not. So constructive feed back would be nice on the things that I suggested.

GWEXTREEMFAN · Oct 10, 2008, 04:30 PM // 16:30

side info: Warriors Endurance

and warriors have NO Energy problems: use em right with the right skills and you wont need energy
ok maybe 10 energy or so no more....
Adrenaline is your fuel
how long do you take per run?
and why heal breeze if you can reduce dmg to 1-10 then heal sig and you're done....
waste of 10 energy

zelgadissan · Oct 10, 2008, 04:31 PM // 16:31

First off, 15 Strength, 16 Sword, and 8 Healing is impossible. I'm going to guess 16 (12+1+3) Sword, 13 Strength (10+3), and then 8 Healing. Not going to go into why two superiors is fail, whether or not you got Legendary Survivor.

Second, it sounds like you're wanting to use this for farming. If that's the case then a whole different set of rules apply, and you should definitely not use a farming style build for normal gameplay. Tyla is 100% right for a normal PvE bar. Also, your elite is called Warrior's Endurance.

Anyway.

1) Deep Wound is worth having on every warrior bar. There is no skill you could possibly have that would outdo -100 health and 20% less healing effect. Edit: technically most Dslash bars don't have it, but that's an exception.

2) Hammer, Earth Shaker. Axe, Eviscerate.

3) The only skill coming to my mind that a sword warrior could use would be the Sunspear skill Whirlwind Attack.

imnotyourmother · Oct 10, 2008, 04:53 PM // 16:53

Well the first part of Zelgadissan does not require a response and I love the extra damage so it would seem that my build is impossible. Good on me cause I have it.

Thanks for the name of the skill though WAR Endurance is the skill and I get +3 per strike.

So what I am reading is what I was afraid of - there are no good AoE skills for my war.

Thanks. I might change to ele and drop the -20% heath for the Healing sig and grab the Fire storm for my AoE damage.

i will give that a shot cause I am looking for FAST Killing of MOBS now with an ele secondary cause the war primary just doesn't cut it

Bobby2 · Oct 10, 2008, 04:54 PM // 16:54

Warrior's Endurance coupled with Power Attack and Protector's? Sounds familiar...

...try a Scythe War

EDIT: Fire Storm? omg all hope is lost

Tyla · Oct 10, 2008, 04:55 PM // 16:55

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Originally Posted by imnotyourmother

Well this build works great actually.

Oh yes, the "it works" card. We're talking about PvE.

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Consider this. Charr Farming Fort Ranik Mission. I can run and kill everything and I take only 48 max damage from the mes and monk foes every now and then. So the Healing Breeze is constant. I am looking to improve the AoE damage as I currently have none.

I can get 25-30 carvings per run and 500 or so gold + odd runes and dyes. So this build does work quite well and took me a very long time to come up with. I needed to balance the extra damage from the 5 energy skill while running with the heeling breeze up when I am in the mobs and the elite energy skill allows me to do this.

This isn't the farming forum.

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I can understand your concern with the 2 sup runes but the extra 50 or so damage that I do each hit slices through the foes so they deal less damage to me. I think that the trade off for health knowing how to run the build is far better use of TIME than having to stand there and strike each foe 4 times instead of twice since they can not kill me anyway with Healing Breaze at +7 regen up constantly.

People know how to run a normal Warrior build, does that mean they should use superiors too?

Oh, and Healing Breeze is a mere 14 health per second.

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So your statement of a silly build is unfounded since you put your lips into action before you tried this build as it solves the energy crisis of a WAR.

I wouldn't try this build, because it has contents I know are bad. You can say that about any build, but sometimes just viewing a build will allow you to understand its outcome.

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As far as maxing the strength, I use strength skills. Maxing it for the SKILLS not the armor pen is the idea here. Also please then advise me where to put the extra attribute points since I can not get the healing up high enough to give me +8 regen on the healing breeze as I am currently 30 attribute points short until we run those 4 quests. (2 to get the 2 quests and the 2 quests themselves)

For Power Attack? Please god, no.

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Also take note that this toon has Legendary Survivor on it and that I put the sup runes on it BEFORE I got the Title so staying alive is not a new concept for me.

And?

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As I see things there are 2 ways to stay alive. One is to Max out the heath with endure pain and such or to mash the crap out of the foes as fast as possible so that you take a limited amount of damage while REGEN your self.

What? Maximizing health when its free is a good thing. Majors and superiors are only worth it when the extra attribution actually means something and when it costs a skill slot it should be worth it.

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As for Protection of my lower heath please also note that I run a HEALING and a PROTECTOR HERO's builds similar to that in CoF missions. So staying alive with only 360 hp is not an issue for me when I am
FARMING

You farm... with AI? Please note this isn't the farming forum, too.

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The purpose of this thread was 3 fold not if this build works or not. So constructive feed back would be nice on the things that I suggested.

Sack all skills but Frenzy, Sever Artery, Gash and Rush and then run better skills.

But seriously, please learn the skill names.

imnotyourmother · Oct 10, 2008, 05:20 PM // 17:20

LOL I am laughing my head off here.

Thanks guys for the entertainment. What a hoot.

I will not post here anymore.

You can close this thread

isamu kurosawa · Oct 10, 2008, 05:33 PM // 17:33

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Originally Posted by imnotyourmother

LOL I am laughing my head off here.

Thanks guys for the entertainment. What a hoot.

I will not post here anymore.

You can close this thread

Laugh away. Comming to a disscussion forum and asking for advice then ignoring it is a bad idea.

You may think you are a gw expert already. You may think the build you have is the greatest thing since sliced bread. You are wrong.

The people giving you this advice have been playing for up to 3+years, have completed everything on a variety of professions and can give detailed explanations of game mechanics that you can only take a poor guess at.

If you ask for advice then show a little more respect to those who give it to you next time. They could have easily just laughed at you and told you to go away.

Come back when you are mature enough to accept constructive criticism.

Taisayacho · Oct 10, 2008, 05:45 PM // 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by imnotyourmother

LOL I am laughing my head off here.

Thanks guys for the entertainment. What a hoot.

I will not post here anymore.

You can close this thread

Let's see... you asked EXPERIENCED players about YOUR build, asking for constructive criticism and improvements. Tyla gave you a long list, but you decide that you "know better" and won't listen? Why did you bother asking in the first place?

Plus: Healing Breeze on Warrior = baed. 10 energy = half your pool.

Bobby2 · Oct 10, 2008, 06:10 PM // 18:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by imnotyourmother

LOL I am laughing my head off here.

Thanks guys for the entertainment. What a hoot.

Yeah thanks to you too! I'm sure that Firestorm War of yours will make its way to AB occasionally so, until then

A Leprechaun · Oct 10, 2008, 06:13 PM // 18:13

Lol, is this guy joking?
He asumes he is good because he is farming Fort Ranik with 2 monks. Lol.

~A Leprechaun~

jackinthe · Oct 10, 2008, 06:23 PM // 18:23

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Originally Posted by Taisayacho

Let's see... you asked EXPERIENCED players about YOUR build, asking for constructive criticism and improvements. Tyla gave you a long list, but you decide that you "know better" and won't listen? Why did you bother asking in the first place?

this.
12chars.

snaek · Oct 10, 2008, 06:42 PM // 18:42

its not hard farming lvl8 foes wit a lvl 20chara
especially when ur using heroes...

try -solo- farming lvl28 mobs on hm...

as far as aoe farming is concerned
i hear ppl use cyclone axe/whirlwind attack axe builds or similar
as well i've seen vwk tank builds or similar

oh and....

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Originally Posted by imnotyourmother

Knowing that I like ENERGY BASED SKILLS - cause my elite gives +3 per strike should I swap out my adren skill - the reduction of 20% health for a more lethal one. If so which one. I like health degen on foes

its called deepwound...and its bout the most lethal thing u can have on a war

oh and degen is pretty useless for wars
if sword wars can cut straight to gash without having to inflict bleeding
they prolly would

Winterclaw · Oct 10, 2008, 06:46 PM // 18:46

Worst thread of the week because of the OP.

No deep wound, frenzy instead of flail, HB is on you bar... you've got a bad set up. And why on earth are you farming in such a low level area in NM with elite skills but not the extra 30 attribute points?

Owik Gall · Oct 10, 2008, 08:12 PM // 20:12

Can't really say I approve of this set up. HB isn't that much of a defense, just a way to spend a chunk of energy to stay in the field longer (maybe). You're a warrior. Find a way to increase damage reduction or just bring a heal skill. Sword, in pve, the usual spike should do. Warrior's Endurance seems like a good promise, but really how many warriors can really use that skill? Focus on your bar in having some adrenaline skills and something so you can recover decently. There are some ways to do that, you just have to find them.

mrbilzor · Oct 10, 2008, 09:36 PM // 21:36

iamnotyourmother, you have some of the best posts on this forum. Your broken english, random caps, and highbrow attitude are classic.

You are the best troll I've ever read. Keep up the good work.

MisterB · Oct 10, 2008, 11:30 PM // 23:30

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Originally Posted by imnotyourmother

So what I am reading is what I was afraid of - there are no good AoE skills for my war.

Thanks. I might change to ele and grab the Fire storm for my AoE damage.

i will give that a shot cause I am looking for FAST Killing of MOBS now with an ele secondary cause the war primary just doesn't cut it

Arlan · Oct 11, 2008, 12:31 AM // 00:31

I nearly posted - but could'nt stop laughing long enough!!!!!